man said "God, i am as powerful as you and i can do anything you can do"
God said "Can you make humans out of dirt like this?"
God picked up some dirt in his hand and breathed life into the dirt and a man was formed
man bent down and grabbed a handful of dirt
God said" At, at, at........get your own dirt"
if you don't believe in God, i challenge you to make one pile of dirt from nothing that is already in existence. make something new that does not contain an atom of anything that is already here
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man said "god i am powerful as you i can do anything you can do
God said" can you make a woman"
man said "yes and genetically engineered a female embryo"
God said"ha simple lend me your rib
"Man said "nope"
god said "damn"
We know that from the bible god needs man ribs to make woman (or why not use dirt). So god cant make women without man "according to the bible" this makes both our examples correct.
But of course they are both illogical rubbish
( although interestingly with cloneing man can make both sexes using a rib)
I made my own dirt and then I made my own human too... If you don't believe me, I have a photo of the person that I made as proof. If you still don't believe me, I ask you this, how else could that person exist if I didn't make him out of dirt? Something can't come from nothing so therefor the only possible explanation is that it was me that made him from dirt.. I can't think of any other way!
God v. Glob Of Dirt
Okay, I did it. Now what?
You say you don't believe I did it? You'd like some proof?
Why not just have faith that I made dirt from nothing? Why must you have proof? How dare you try and use logic!
Suppose I told you that I've been making Globs Of Dirt from nothing for years and that I've been successfully making humans out of the dirt (because we all know humans are made out of dirt)?
Would your rational mind be inclined to believe or disbelieve me?
Suppose you wanted a demonstration and the dirt I made came with the stipulation that it is invisible? You can't see it, you just have to have faith it's there.
Well, you'd try and touch the dirt, right? Suppose I said that the dirt had no distinct feeling to it.
Well suppose you then said that you were going to cover the area with paint and see if there is a Glob Of Dirt? To which I respond, that the dirt is incorporeal, so the paint won't stick.
Let's say you tried to prove each time that the dirt didn't exist, and each time I had a special explanation to suggest your tests wouldn't work. Would your rational mind still be inclined to believe that I've made a Glob Of Dirt?
Let us suppose, for argument's sake, that friends and neighbors of yours began telling you that they too believe in the Glob Of Dirt, and to the best of your knowledge these people don't know each other? Might then you be more open, or would your skeptical, logical mind put the whole issue on hold until you had more proof?
Let us suppose then that someone approached you and told you that they got some of my dirt in their eye and that it impaired their vision, would you then believe having seen signs of what my dirt has done? Or would your logical mind think that it may have been something besides my dirt which deterred their vision?
Let us suppose that a man approached you and told you that he was made out of my dirt, by me. Would your logical mind then believe? Or would you be skeptical and think that humans aren't made out of dirt or that they're made other ways?
I would suppose you still do not believe in the Glob Of Dirt.
Such "evidence" -- no matter how important the dirt advocates consider it -- is far from compelling. Once again, the only sensible approach is tentatively to reject the dirt hypothesis, to be open to future physical data, and to wonder what the cause might be that so many apparently sane and sober people share the same strange delusion
Well you see here buddy, i am an atheist and i DON'T believe that humans were created out of the dirt or the click of the fingers. So you imply that people who don't believe in god can make another object/being with a pile of dirt, or with no atoms? Well you should have thought that maybe we did believe in EVOLUTION and evolved from apes.
I challenge you to prove that anything you might call God made the dirt or the man that came from it. You're basically taking the word of someone who wrote a book thousands of years ago as actual evidence that something existed.
I challenge you to prove your god made the dirt to begin with. I believe Genesis said the heavens and Earth were created out of chaos, ( the actual word is Tiamat, the Babylonian goddess of chaos whose body was used to make the universe in Mesopotamian creation myths). Now correct me if I'm wrong, but a vacuum of absolute nothingness is not chaotic.
I challenge God to make a pile of dirt. If he did it once, surely he can repeat the experiment.
oh ya, you are right, I never thought of it that way, I can't make a person, so there must be a god, oh wait, if I have a fun time with your girlfriend I can make a person. And I can feed it food that I grew in your dirt.
I guess there is no god after all
Well, theoretically according Einstein it is possible to create matter out of energy, but there's all kinds of issues with doing it in practice.
Still, as far as arguing the case for the existence of a creator, I doubt you've convinced any atheists here...
There is no evidence that a god did this either then a book written by humans. Do you accept that Dumbledore could go into others memories because a book wrote it? Or that Mohammed spoke to god in the dessert because someone wrote they did?